Unsure what happened there, looks like the spam filter went a bit crazy.

But your argument would defeat Pystar’s case – their case depends upon a Mac being even beyond a Rolls – like the Chariot of the gods or something. I know that askimet gets fickle, for a while my own posts were getting caught in the spam filter, and I am a writer here.

Anticipate said:This would make crApple think about their “ludicrous” prices they charge as much as it would make Rolls Royce think about what they charge for their car, afterall, its just a car! Or how it would make Hollywood actors think about their 20 million dollar request to work for 3 to 6 months, and in order for them to reap their reward, we have to pay $5.00 popcorn and $3.00 sodas, not to mention $10.00 for tickets – $18.00, all to see a 90 minute flick that has a 50/50 chance of being an enjoyable show or a POS, I want my money back! product.

You see, it’s all relative.

Actually it is. You are speaking of market forces, that I agree with. Although I think the myth of “ridiculous” prices has been as debunked as sounding as “no right click.” But let’s pretend for the sake of convo that it is true. I don’t go out to the movies because I think it is too expensive. Precisely because of people like me the movie rental business bloomed. No government intervention involved.

terry said:Dont know why they would be bothered to clone another Unix distro with a fraction of software available to other OS’s. If it makes crApple think about the ludicrous prices they charge then it will be worth it.

eh? I was a windows users for two decades, and I haven’t found any programs lacking on the OS platform – but also I am not a gamer, so that wouldn’t factor in for me at least.

You see, it’s all relative.

That last comment is just a cheap shot. I think there is a chance it might be, or it might not be. But what precisely is wrong with a business wanting to make money? Are you paid for your work? Yes? I guess you just like the smell of money. See how that works?

I can’t see Snow Leopard being free – they like the smell of money.

I suspect your next machine will be a Mac. The costs of hair loss solutions and drywall repairs are way too high.

If they cant write a EULA that is not legal in the the country of sale (lord knows they make enough money of each sale) it is their own fault.

My next machine wont be a Mac – the cost of repair is way to high and I will be forced to upgrade if I want Snow Leopard.

You don’t have a right to someone else’s product, most particularly in something that is a luxury item

No one should be forced to sell their work under such terms and should have the right to put restrictions on how their work is used

With the above being subject to broad caveats on things of very important public interest.

The entitlement mentality makes me ill, which is the core reason of my visceral reaction against Psystar.

Yes, I am going to channel Ayn Rand here for a bit, because this is the part where I agree with her. One part of me wishes Jobs would set the place on fire and say to hell with all of you! (again this is a proverbial you) just like Ellis Wyat did with his oil fields in Atlas Shrugged.

Did Psystar do the R&D to develop this product? Do you? NO.

If it were me, and I had the luxury, I would destroy the work of my own hands rather than having it forced to conditions that I don’t agree upon.

I believe Ayn Rand called such looters. And I think she is right.

On a UK Mac website the biggest request for the upcoming launches was lower prices. Apple need competition, the hardware is good, the software is okay but they get away with some very ordinary releases on the back of some glories.

You would want to be judged on legal merits right?

dave said:Well, it’s unlikely that Pystar will win, as Apple only sells upgrade versions, and a win for Pystar would also negatively impact Microsoft [as then you would be able to 'force' MS to let you install an upgrade version of Vista without having a previous version. If anything, Apple would still have a retail 'upgrade' box, and add a retail 'new OS' box for a crazy large amount of money with a lot of explicit limitations on what hardware would be supported [basically, making it financially not viable for anyone to actually purchase it].

Well Dear Leader is clever. He has stuck it to people far smarter than Psystar.

eric said:I don’t think free OS X upgrades can be done for the same legal mumbo-jumbo reason (*cough* SOX) that ipod touches must have a price attached to their upgrades.

That is a VERY good point I didn’t think of. Well I don’t think it is a “law” it is just internal accounting rules. Internal accounting rules can change.

Wayne Winquist said:I’d sit on the sidelines and root for PyStar, but I can’t stand Arrogant companies. Had PyStar actually tried to negotiate a deal to build Apple-Authorized machines, BEFORE they started selling them, I might have had an ounce of sympathy.

As for Apple, if they’d fill the few niches for those of us who DON’T NEED what they offered but would like an Apple machine, I doubt they’d have a problem. The one thing I’d stick up for with PyStar was in filling a gap, and doing it for cheaper than Apple was offering.

I hate arrogant companies… and I hope that Pystar loses. I also hope Apple fills that niche market (please!!!!).

Wayne that is part of my strong bias against them. I live in Florida and perhaps it struck home more because the several owners of that company kept shooting their mouths off with what I consider to be lies and acting like punks. That immediately showed me that this was not a professional business decision but a parasitic David versus Goliath complex.

What’s her name?

Maddog said:I am hoping PyStar win this one. I like apple but the prices we pay in UK are not justified. An “apple” Nvidia card is £50 more than one from Nvidia.

Apple get enough money from me but my Hack leaves even the best Mac Pro standing.

Maddog, you have to for Psystar for US legal reasons, not personal ones. Would you like to lose a lawsuit because of someone’s personal reasons? If you think Apple prices are too high, vote with your wallet, but don’t root for parasites unless you have a reason other than I don’t like paying such and such – that is not a legal reason. Do unto others and all that. You would want to be judged on legal merits right?

Leigh McMullen said:P.S. I totally expect “Snow Leopard” to be a free update, so that might be part of the “product transition” but more of that (I hope) will be the 25th Anniversary of the Mac (this January), where something revolutionary (again, i hope will be announced.

I am suspecting that Snow Leopard is an anticipated solution to this potential problem.

Leigh McMullen said:12 hours in labor, dawg (17 as I write this). Lucky I could type. I’ve been referring to them in my internal monologue as “Pysster” which is probably where the spelling came from

Thanks for the catch updated on CoM.

(It’s a girl!)

Leigh, I was just joshing you – I love your blog

Apple get enough money from me but my Hack leaves even the best Mac Pro standing.

Thanks for the catch updated on CoM.

(It’s a girl!)

As for Apple, if they’d fill the few niches for those of us who DON’T NEED what they offered but would like an Apple machine, I doubt they’d have a problem. The one thing I’d stick up for with PyStar was in filling a gap, and doing it for cheaper than Apple was offering.

I hate arrogant companies… and I hope that Pystar loses. I also hope Apple fills that niche market (please!!!!).